lah dee dah ([info]lah_dee_dah) wrote,
@ 2007-08-03 10:06:00
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Current mood: disappointed

Elaboration (Ha!) on current events.
Okay. So. Hi guys.

If the news hasnt reached you yet, myself (the artist formerly known as [info]elaboration and [info]ponderosa have both been permanently suspended from LJ. Yesterday I recieved, without any prior notice or warning, the following note from LJ:

Dear LiveJournal user elaboration,

It has come to our attention that one of your entries, located at http://community.livejournal.com/pornish_pixies/462939.html, contains drawings depicting minors in explicit sexual situations. Such content is in violation of our policies, and we take action when it is reported to us.

Due to the nature of this violation, your accounts have been permanently suspended, and we regret that we cannot allow you to create additional accounts on LiveJournal.

Regards,
Scott
LiveJournal Abuse Prevention Team


If you clicked the link, you'll notice that there's obviuosly no entry there, as my account's been deleted. Not just elaboration, but also [info]oh__eff, [info]ichiko and every other journal I created with my usual email (I'm so relieved this one survived). This also means that the images I uploaded with scrapbook are all gone, meaning, well, the majority of the art I posted here are all gone, and I have no way of getting them back.


Now.
The art that got me the suspension was a Fred/George painting that, hilariously enough, I drew for [info]pornish_pixies "The Internet is For Porn" challenge after they were unexpectedly suspended back in June.
You guys here know my art style better than anyone. You know that while I read HP fic, I do NOT draw Chan/underaged art. Sometimes the age of the characters in my art is ambiguous, but that's the style I work in, and I'm horribly disgusted that LJ suspended me because of the way the characters LOOK. Quick guys, start pulling Junko Mizunos books from bookstores. Get rid of Allan Moore's Dream Girls while we're at it, yeah?
Also, look, Fred and George Are. Not. Real. They are fictional characters. Not only that, by the seventh book they are nearly 20 and therefore consenting adults.
This is very frustrating as I dont have a copy of the painting on this computer, and have nothing to site in my arguments. So if by any chance anyone here remembers and saved the image (titled Weasley Wizards Wanking), I ask that you PLEASE email a copy to me.

Look, I can understand and support LJ cuttind down on pedophilia and illegal content on their servers. They are just doing it WRONG. They are targetting the WRONG people and the WRONG groups.

Guys, I had a $150 permanent account. I only had it for 2 months, but it was a very expensive gift, and now a good friend is out a good deal of money because of this, and that is ridiculous.

I just dont even know what else to say. My GreatestJournal account can be found here, and it looks like I'll be posting all art (fandom or otherwise) here from now on, though being very careful about what I choose to post. Although seeing as all of the art here is underlock anyway, that shouldnt be a problem, according to LJ.
(Which obviously means no, I'm not leaving LJ all together. I still have a strong network of friends here, and you are welcom to friend this journal and the one on GJ)

[ETA] Thanks to amazingly awesome friends (and also because all of this has spurred me into finally taking my macbook to get repaired) I now have a copy of the picture that got me suspended. It's on Photobucket, as I wasnt sure where else to upload it o_o; It IS NSFW, so be wary if clicking. I dunno. I suppose they do look rather young, but I was not thinking of them as underage AT ALL when I drew this. fjalskdjfalsf. Piss and damnation.




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[info]misourafirewind
2007-08-03 03:35 pm UTC (link)
Completely asinine of livejournal. I've been watching them crack down on, as you said, the wrong people and groups, and, frankly and crudely, it's pissing me off.

Anywhere we can complain about this? =/

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[info]buboplague
2007-08-03 03:40 pm UTC (link)
this is beyond lame. They shouldve at least WARNED you, and let you let them know what was going on, than just BAM you're suspended.

Is there any way AT ALL to negotiate with them? They made another stupid mistake like they did before, and just like before, they should take into consideration they just did something wrong and fix it. You should seriously try and talk to them about it.

cuz THATS LIKe.. DISCRIMINATION AGAINST ARTISTS.

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[info]tashiya_03
2007-08-03 03:41 pm UTC (link)
whoa! that makes it even worst!!$150 permenant account! plus when you did it...they were prolly about 17 years old...which in texas is legal age to leave your house and be considered an adult! damn... i am sorry about this... i think they should have given you a warning or suspended you for a few days...not all out delete your journal...because of one picture! plus you are a paid member!!! GAH! good luck! i am behind you!

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[info]avi_via_vai
2007-08-03 03:41 pm UTC (link)
Well, it looks like I'll be joining GJ now... :/ I honestly can't believe that after Strikethrough '07 that there are still using this method weed out what they deem is inappropriate. What they should have done is contact you and tell you to remove the offensive material or at least put it under a lock.

I sadly don't have the image (I typically don't save fanart to my computer) but I wish that I had.

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[info]the_boojum
2007-08-03 03:44 pm UTC (link)
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

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[info]vartan
2007-08-03 03:52 pm UTC (link)
That makes me so mad, I thought LJ was over this shit, and the idea that it was someone trying to get back at the two of you for something is even more absoludicrous.

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[info]shuraiya
2007-08-03 03:59 pm UTC (link)
What the hell, that is so goddamn ridiculous! I hope this mess gets sorted out. ):

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[info]fiere
2007-08-03 04:02 pm UTC (link)
ARGH. I am still so incredibly pissed off about this, since [info]glockgal burst into the room last night and told us all about this. >_< Thank goodness you have at least this one to let us all know. ♥

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[info]saratheflute
2007-08-03 04:40 pm UTC (link)
I AM SO PISSED OFF FOR YOU.

::yells at LJ::

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[info]hokuton_punch
2007-08-03 04:41 pm UTC (link)
D: LAME. LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME.

I don't think I saved it, but I can check when I get home and am not on, you know, a work computer of workingness.

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[info]shinshan
2007-08-03 04:43 pm UTC (link)
[info]femmequixotic would like you to email her so she can get her facts straight.

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[info]fleur_de_liz
2007-08-03 05:25 pm UTC (link)
I'm furious over this. Absolutely furious.

But it looks like your [info]ichiko account didn't get purged with the rest of them either. So you can make "I hate LJ Abuse Abuse" pie for us.

I STILL LOVE YOU.

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[info]arboretum
2007-08-03 05:26 pm UTC (link)
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[info]laser_rabbits
2007-08-03 05:41 pm UTC (link)
Huh, and here I thought they were done with the witch hunt crap.

I'm sure they must not be stupid enough to keep the $150.

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[info]sappy_vcv
2007-08-03 06:03 pm UTC (link)
The art is the one you did after Strikethrough, right? Because if it's the one I think, I have it. I don't have your email though, is there another way to send it? I don't want you giving me your email if it would make you feel uncomfortable (considering I'm like, a complete stranger) but I really want to help. If you already have it, just disregard this part, but not the hope that all of this gets sorted out.

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[info]junemermaid
2007-08-03 06:17 pm UTC (link)
Wow, so like, I thought we were thru with LJ being a bunch of douchebags but I guess not O_O

Thats so weird tho, of all the people I know you're one that I dont even associate with drawing kids...like.....EVER, let alone drawing kiddy prons.
WTF?
HAY LJ! HARRY POTTER. HAVE YOU READ IT?!

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[info]junemermaid
2007-08-04 07:50 am UTC (link)
BTW any chance of you mirroring your art posts on like, Y!G or something? I don't have a GreatestJournal and you know I'll miss your pretty T^T

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[info]jenisis
2007-08-03 06:50 pm UTC (link)
oh /god/. stupid lj.

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[info]anjelchan
2007-08-03 07:21 pm UTC (link)
Once again, LJ loses sight of reality and does stupid things. What's the point of calling it a Permanent Account unless they actually intend on keeping it around? Does that mean that your account smells bad and is curly now? Because obviously they weren't referring to the length of the stay your journal would receive....

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[info]ryuu_hime
2007-08-03 08:49 pm UTC (link)
They really should at least refund the $150...that totally sucks. :(

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[info]nima_skysong
2007-08-03 08:55 pm UTC (link)
...piccy not on Photobucket any more. Sadditude.

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[info]nightmaresabove
2007-08-03 09:31 pm UTC (link)
zjnfkdxjghfjk It says it's not on Photobucket anymore

And LJ really should have warned you and given you a chance to explain they WEREN'T underage. It doesn't matter how they look. Unless they were specifically underage, then THAT'S when they should say something. But since they WEREN'T, then wtf :|

LJ seems to have gone more than a wee bit nuts with the deleting journals and shit in recent months. I -really- hope there's a way for you to argue your point and get your account back. That's so fucked up and SO SHITTY that you had just gotten the permanent account ;_;

<33333

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[info]reverie_shadow
2007-08-03 09:50 pm UTC (link)
I really hope that something can be done about the permanent account thing. They really do at least owe you (that is, your friend) a refund, because this is not only just ridiculous, it's flat out robbery to cheat out your users on something like that. It's simply unacceptable.

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[info]akayalovesyaoi
2007-08-03 10:02 pm UTC (link)
I can't see the picture anymore ;( anyway, I added you on GJ, under the nick Akayaisinrage

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[info]insomniel
2007-08-03 10:27 pm UTC (link)
:< I am sorry to hear about LJ being douchebags. Sorry, but not surprised. Your arguments are perfectly reasonable, and I hope someone is able to convince the higherups at LJ that they are going about things the wrong way. That's just insane.

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[info]gypsy_sunday
2007-08-04 02:15 am UTC (link)
Thank god Lah Dee Dah's under my email account x_x;;

Like I've already said on your dA journal, I think this is just ridiculous. I don't see how deleting your journals equates to a bold blow in the fight against child pornography -- it just sounds like bullying. Grr.

"we regret that we cannot allow you to create additional accounts on LiveJournal."
How are they going to reinforce this? Did they log your IP address, or are they just going to reject any accounts under your former email address? I hope it's the latter, 'cuz then all you need to do is get a new email address :P

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[info]mistressshinma
2007-08-04 04:45 pm UTC (link)
...and do it in a different location than normal. :3

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[info]immoral
2007-08-05 07:06 am UTC (link)
I hope you fight back. And win. But my prior experiences with LJ don't allow me much faith in the matter.

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[info]pure_terrorist
2007-08-05 11:36 am UTC (link)
Crap! What allows them to judge the ages of people in drawings? Looks like photobucket didn't like the content either. Ugh, what's happening to the 'net?

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[info]demonsoup
2007-08-08 12:18 pm UTC (link)
Arghhhh, I'm so sorry ;___;

Just don't let them stop you! Be strong cara, be strong! <3

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